We talk to legendary showrunner Cheo Hodari Coker.
He talks about his journey from music journalist to writer, what he learned from the tough world of hip-hop and how he used those skills in Hollywood.
Cheo talks about the similarities between running and writing, finding pockets of time to write and how screenwriting can be painful.
He describes embracing the suck, seizing his moment and writing as pie-eating.
A fascinating interview with a talented storyteller.