Take 128 - Showrunner and Writer John Wirth, Dark Winds, Nash Bridges

We speak to the legendary John Wirth.
He talks about a Hollywood career so long that he can't even remember all of the shows he has run, the shows he has been fired from and arguing with actors who hadn't won Emmys.
He talks about managing upwards, 'run money' and an extraordinary argument with talent about trust.
A remarkable episode with a remarkable storyteller.