Take 132 - Showrunner Frank Cardea, NCIS, Crazy Like a Fox, Shogun

What an episode!
We talk to TV legend Frank Cardea about his decades in the business.
He tells us about his move from accountancy to producing, the extraordinary longevity of his writing partnership and working on more than 400 episodes of NCIS.
We hear some great examples of failure, some great examples of success and also some great examples of leadership.
A fascinating deepdive into one of Hollywood longest and most prodigious careers.