We talk to the extraordinary Chef Andre Rush in a slightly different episode of the podcast.
The former solider and White House Chef talks about his transition into television, the 'sharks' he found there and why he chose to make the leap.
Chef Rush tells us about the stresses of White House cooking, his role in spreading awareness about mental health and being in the gym at the Pentagon on September 11.
We talk spilt wine, working with Gordon Ramsay and his desire to stay in television after the success of his first show.
An extraordinary interview with an extraordinary man.